In order to keep games more interesting and fair Ancient Tomb has to go. This format is a real shame, just ban partner commander instead and let players decide witch cards they want to play instead ! Planeswalkers (3): 3 Jace, Wielder of Mysteries. Framed prints in a range of sizes, styles and frame colors. Okay there's more to it than that, but after looking through discussions on this sub, I've realized a lot of people point to Thassa's Oracle as the card that could be banned to nerf the two most prominent combo decks. Put up to one of them on top of your library and the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order. The Deck. I'm facing it almost every other game in the best of one queue right now and it just doesn't feel good to win or lose to. He’s made an appearance at the Pro Tour, made money at GP Denver, and is constantly grinding and brewing in Modern. See cards from the most recent sets and discover what players just like you are saying about them. If Thassa's Oracle is banned, both Lotus Breach and Dimir Inverter will still be able to win with Jace, Wielder of Mysteries (or other win conditions). While Jace isn't an ideal win condition, allowing these decks to continue in a watered-down version may be the solution R&D chooses to go with. maybe i stopped paying attention at the wrong time, but the pre-ban standard seemed to be 90% non-interactive, and mostly combo. 27 Nov … Ancient Tomb is now banned. If X is greater than or equal to the number of cards in your library, you win the game. The White-Blue Control Mage's Guide to 2020. 12 Oct by Kagros. 3) Mox Opal is free mana in a competitive environment period. Mais c’est pas mal comme décision, dans le fond. I don't ever see it happening. Ban all non-red cards/all cmc 3+/Creatures with power 3+ and reduce starting life to 10. Thinking id get to play it after the world goes back to normal Flash gets banned during the state of … Also, no player should have the ability to start the game with 9 cards in hand without any penalties. Until then, we wish you all many good games! Check out what changes await the metagame! It is painfully obvious that RDW is being pushed hard by the committee. Arguably the best known card in the Power Nine, and for that matter all of Magic. Yeah that's a saving grace for sure, I still just don't see the appeal of the deck but hey to each his own. Partners are still a problem because the committee claims they are a niche for creative deckbuilding. Unlike nexus it doesn't take an 20 mins to win. The subreddit for anything concerning the Magic the Gathering: Arena! Put one of them on top of your library and the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order. I'm sure there are sufficient answers in BO3 but in this queue it feels very Nexus-y. AUGUST 2020 RULES – BANNED/RESTRICTED UPDATE, FEBRUARY 2019 RULES – BANNED/RESTRICTED UPDATE, FEBRUARY 2020 RULES – BANNED/RESTRICTED UPDATE, NOVEMBER 2019 RULES – BANNED/RESTRICTED UPDATE, MAY 2020 RULES – BANNED/RESTRICTED UPDATE. Mox opal decks are not the most powerful decks you can play in this format, and from the data we have, we can see that mox opal is not even played that often in the format as a whole. Apeal of playing artifat ctrategy is that you can play this powerful card istead of doing other powerful things. Gatherer is the Magic Card Database. Beautifully handmade for you out of the finest materials and archival quality papers. All these reasons let us believe that Thassa’s Oracle stay in our format should be a rather short one. Mox opal is not banned in legacy because there are other powerful things you can do that does not include mox opal. my prediction is either Thassa's Oracle or Inverter of Truth banned to weaken/get rid of inverter. » – modern and duel commander are different formats with differnt card pool and different dacks being played. Ban Thassa's Oracle you cowards! Magic: The Gathering Thassa's Devourer card details, official rulings, official oracle text, format legalities, comments, & more at Planeswalker's Library! Assuming they don't draw Thassa's Oracle early (big assumption), you can disrupt the combo with any 2-mana discard (on the play), any counter magic for Treasure Hunt, Unmoored Ego, a turn 3 (or turn 4 on the play) kill, and any number of other ways. on pourra vous dire ce qu’on veut, vous signalez un problème d’équilibre dans la méta, etc… vous vous en foutez royalement. They either hit their perfect draw and combo turn 4 or I go under them in time with very little interaction between our two decks. Thassa's Oracle is not their only wincon. Le Commander est devenu un format populaire principalement grâce à son côté fun et au challenge passionnant qu’il propose aux constructeurs de decks. And here in Duel Commander we have the same thing. Put up to one of them on top of your library and the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order. Constellation — Whenever Thassa's Devourer or another enchantment enters the battlefield under your control, target player puts the top two cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard. ces bans sont merdiques, vous savez pas gérer le format… enfin si… vous le gérer de telle sorte que vous puissiez faire des top tournois. This leads to the following changes: Thassa’s Oracle is now banned.Ancient Tomb is now banned.Mox Opal is now banned. Thats the point of commander to play cards that are good with it. The main difference between Mox Opal on one side and Mox Sapphire and its siblings on the other side is the keyword Metalcraft.While it’s hard for most decks to have three artifacts on the board, it really isn’t when your whole deck -or in the case of Silas Renn, Seeker Adept even one of your commanders- has this card type. And one last thing is that banning of Mox Opal killed more of my fun brew combo decks than competitive decks that were « oppressive » in the format. Thassas Oracle (or Jace) Win. CHECK You stop win or lose fast. Welcome back Sulfuric Vortex! Please be careful with Hoogaak, it is a T2 or T3 thing, which can comeback really speedly, destroy or kill it isn’t a problem, exil not to. Search for the perfect addition to your deck. 2. January 20, ... Odyssey block, quit playing Magic when Caw Blade ruled the world, and returned to Modern shortly before Deathrite was banned. Agreed the deck is annoying to lose to, but it is the most glass cannon of glass cannon combos. Matches operate under the timer set… Duel Commander is an interesting format BUT why the fuck they keep lowing the power of the decks by excluding cards that can go in every deck to make fair game ?! Thassa’s Oracle. Well designed decks will have synergies with their commanders in both early and mid-late game. The reality is that Partner decks are surprisingly homogeneous. The only challenge was figuring out the most spectacular way to win with the two-drop. Yep Jace is defintely an alternate wincon but I have not seen any lists using him as he is too slow. It instead just made it more fail-proof. « The main difference between Mox Opal on one side and Mox Sapphire and its siblings on the other side is the keyword Metalcraft. If you cant interact or win before they combo off you might want to consider switching decks. » – we can say the same about Satyr Wayfinder in Hogaak, Arisen Necropolis decks. Opal est juste patate trop the boost de mana. People saying that Wizards will sanction the format come April and that it is great for them to « take the power back » baffle me. The literal and graphical information presented on this site about Magic: The Gathering, including card images, the mana symbols, and Oracle text, is copyright Wizards of the Coast, LLC, a subsidiary of Hasbro, Inc. Scryfall is not produced by, endorsed by, supported by, … Admittedly I haven't played much control in this format, how do they deal with the deck usually? High quality Mtg inspired framed prints by independent artists and designers from around the world. These changes apply on February 28, 2020. (Each {U} in the mana costs of permanents you control counts toward your devotion to blue.) When Thassa's Oracle enters the battlefield, look at the top X cards of your library, where X is your devotion to blue. It is also cheaper to play than either of them at 2 mana rather than 3 or 4. 27 Nov by SuperMadLad. I just hold out a counterspell until they play oracle and laugh at them. Also I wouldn't be surprised if Underworld Breach gets banned. Play aggro or lose, basically. Vortex, re-bievenue Une carte juste qui, à 3 et deux « Red » ne joue pas partout. Ancient Tomb portait un haut risque mais trop souvent permettait des « starts » explosifs et de l’endurance au long jeu. it deserves them all it done is run 35 deal x damage for cmc 3 or less and 6-14 creatures that are usually the same in many ways its worse than the control decks you try to stomp out and I will never understand the combo hate that is on you and it seems personal. 4 Thassa’s Oracle 4 Inverter of Truth. Mox Opal is now banned. Merci! When Thassa's Oracle enters the battlefield, look at the top X cards of your library, where X is your devotion to blue. Whether being used to cast commanders or expensive spells like Damnation, Fiery Confluence or Thought-Knot Seer, the result often easily mitigates the damage done by Ancient Tomb most of the time. Gladiator is a 100 card singleton format, intended to be played primarly on MTG Arena. Here we are talking about 99 card singleton format with not nearly enough support for this card to be as broken in modern. While their evaluation of this card may prove to be right, this feels rushed and irresponsible. Ancient Tomb was made legal again one year after the format was changed to start with 20 life points for players under the assumption that the card would be kept in check by the lower life total and the viability of aggressive decks. Thassa is the god who is least likely to be satisfied with the status quo, but in the meantime she is also the least likely to rush to change. It is more than a pleasure to see rising numbers in events and players attending those events. If X is equal to or greater than the number of cards in your library, you win the game. Waiting to see if players will respond and the meta will stabilize is laughable at best seeing that it’s already a proven strategy. Same old DC committee. Here’s the full illustration from Jesper Esping: Thassa’s Oracle is Omenspeaker with a cool wincon attached, and a strong source of blue Devotion! It can be played in any deck and doesn’t require any synergies or deckbuilding restrictions. When she speaks, she usually does so in the f… CHECK Allow players to win out of nowhere Flash/Hulk and Oracle/Consult can both be dropped with very little telegraphing and no boardstate. Let's look at their banlist philosophy and consider Flash, Protean Hulk, Thassa's Oracle and Demonic Consultation/Tainted Pact: Cause severe resource imbalances Flash is 2cmc; Oracle + Consult is 3cmc. When Thassa's Oracle enters the battlefield, look at the top X cards of your library, where X is your devotion to blue. Before Thassa’s Oracle existed Flash combo was still powerful, touting turn 2 and turn 3 instant-speed wins immune to removal with enough mana spare for spells to protect the combo. On the other hand, limitations such as color identities do breed creativity as it forces them to rely on sub-par cards to cover up their weaknesses. Thassa’s Oracle. Either create a rule to balance it or ban the mechanic altogether. They really love RDW, I get its your pet deck but your ruining the format look at the stats on magic top 8 red isn’t in a bad spot let it lose games, its and un-creative boring deck so what it has bad match ups? Hey folks, with an exciting year 2019 under our belly, there was the time between years for closely inspecting our beloved format. Another difference is that this card usually don’t ramp you on turn one and you need specific set of cards to enable it quickly. As soon as Thassa's Oracle was previewed, I was pretty sure it would be our first Against the Odds card from the set. Thassa’s Oracle is now banned. Other changes: No changes. Any deck that beats red or partners at the aggro game is a target for a ban (watch out Hogaak, you are next!). While it is true that this land is somewhat painful versus aggressive decks, it is also a fact, that those precise decks are using the card themselves.Trading life for resources has always been a dangerous mechanic and it is even more dangerous when being done while being the aggressive deck. I don't see it getting banned anytime soon. Ancient Tomb makes no exception to this and allows for explosive starts. If X is greater than or equal to the number of cards in your library, you win the game. The last two rounds of bans have killed the scene around here. the deck doesn't interact at all and just sits there. Further individual explanations: With Theros Beyond Death, Thassa’s Oracle made its entrance into a lot of formats. With the exception of certain special cards printed outside normal sets (such as Splendid Genesis, Fraternal Exaltation and Shichifukujin Dragon,) the Black Lotus is the most valuable Magic card. In modern you could have played 4 copies of mox opal alongside 4 copies of Mishra’s Bauble and cards like gilded goose which makes it very easy to play active opal on turn one. October 12, 2020 Banned and Restricted Update. Play aggro or lose. The treasure hunt one havn't had the pleasure of experiencing breach outside of pioneer yet XD. I've been having a blast playing a U/R Equipment Aggro Deck. And remember that this decks when opal was banned played Oko as well so you can turn your redundant or useles mox into 3/3 elk. Basically, it's a meme 35% win deck against non blue decks, and significantly worse against any UBx deck (and there are a zillion in historic). As for the committee having an affinity for aggro they already banned Arahbo and Najeela and Zurgo. And hey, since RDW isn’t enough of a fun police with Uro around, how about we make sure it destroys every non-Uro deck EVEN MORE. - The matches are Best of Three, 1v1 and a starting life total of 20. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. je m’en souviens de cette phrase… mais vous ne vous souvenez pas de son sens. By providing permanent extra mana on the turn it is played, it is a huge tempo gain – especially when it’s used to cast and recast commanders. » – which makes its use narrowed to decks that have artifact synergies. ... Its power level has proved the card worthy of a ban, and it's now leaving the format. This is completly different card. Thassa's Oracle Creature — Merfolk Wizard. Banned and Restricted Update, October 12th 2020 by MTGStocks After the banning of Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath most people predicted that Wizards has banned one of the cards that indeed appear in the Omnath decks, but would not stop Omnath from being dominant. Many of the rules of the format are shared among other singleton variants, while also providing a unique experience. 1. I know how to fix DC. If I play my mono blue mill deck they match me up against it 60% of the time, no joke. This committee is a bunch of fucking snowflakes who do not allow a conducive, creative space for diverse strategies and deck-building. These changes apply on February 28, 2020. The next announcement will be published on May 25, 2020 (applying on May 29, 2020). So stop striping good cards from the format, think about people who bought those specific cards like Ancient Tomb, they ban a 30euros card, expensive but every body can afford it, just ban the duo land man, the price is off and it’s REALLY too powerful ! Giving Partner players the option to play any color combination does not inspire creativity. No chance it gets banned. The tier 0 deck (lukka) was combo, and when i peaced out the tier 1 decks were cycling combo "storm", gyruda combo, winota combo, and take-the-entire-day-fiddling around cauldron familiar/witch's oven engines. Browse through cards from Magic's entire history. Constructed By Rone (2020-03-09) Cost: 0 Type: Artifact Text with errata: T, Sacrifice Black Lotus: Add three mana of any one color to your mana pool. 27 Nov by Kdog3030. Nothing to curb the power of Partner commanders, everything to push out combo. Aggro is a pain for every other archetype since they decide to go down to 20 life. its annoying but they usually win on turn 5 if everything goes right. Thassas Oracle is probably the best alternative win condition for the deck. Wizards just announced through WPN that they will be sanctioning Commander starting April. When Thassa's Oracle enters the battlefield, look at the top X cards of your library, where X is your devotion to blue. I really disagree with mox opal ban. Here's the list https://aetherhub.com/Deck/Public/225424 edit: oops grabbed the wrong list updated it, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. » – no, it isn’t. In decks with Sai, Master Thopterist or Akiri, Line-Slinger as commanders Mox Opal does not only help casting the commanders ahead on time but also gives an advantage when arriving late to the party.Furthermore, Mox Opal provides the same benefits as Ancient Tomb in those decks without being painful at all, and on top of that, can generate mana of any color. If X is greater than or equal to the number of cards in your library, you win the game. Ancient tomb provides mana adventage on turn one with no set up. The Oracle is not an Elemental and … If that was enough to be banned from a format, Null Rod and Collector Ouphe would have been banned ages ago, because almost every deck plays mana rocks (23 out of 100 are hosed by those). It is always exciting to see a ability that states “you win the game” on a new card, except this time the excitement did not last long. A B&R announcement after the Grand Finals. Oracle is what I hope gets banned because then it leaves two 4 mana cards left to try and combo off with in inverter decks 27 Nov by MTGArenaOriginalDecks. With the printing of Uro, Titan of Nature’s Wrath, Klothys, God of Destiny or Heliod, Sun-Crowned we believe that Sulfuric Vortex will have a meaningful and healthy role in the format again.It does not add explosiveness to red tempo / aggressive decks and gives them outs to combat repeatable lifegain from the command zone, as well as providing in a steady tempo damage that is not affected by most board wipes or usual spot removal cards. The disadvantage is the increased difficulty of draw yourself to death effects. Daily Store Deals in MTG Arena for February 29, 2020 - 90% Off Thassa's Oracle Card Style & More! Historic events will permanently give daily wins. Time to hand back this format to people who actually know a thing or two about balancing a meta. All orders are custom made … While similar to already existing cards like Laboratory Maniac or Jace, Wielder of Mysteries, Thassa’s Oracle does not need to stay on the board for its magic to happen and decks that can’t interact with it -or with its triggered ability- while it’s on the stack have very little ways of beating the combo, when set up correctly.In addition to this, Thassa’s Oracle only has a converted mana cost of 2, which makes it not only easy to cast along with cards that empty the library on the same turn but also, due to its card types, make it very easy to search out of the deck by a wide variety cards.